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includeMeOut's avatar

The "doomers" are very attached to their point of view. If one raises the prospect of "free energy" as a way forward -- a "forward escape" from our current dilemma -- one is liable to be called a "techno utopian" which is an accusation akin to "conspiracy theorist".

They thus, mostly unconsciously, play into the hands of those forces intent on withholding these technologies from humanity.

False dichotomies prevail.

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Wade Frazier's avatar

Yes, "Cornucopian" is another one of their epithets:

https://ahealedplanet.net/scarcity.htm#topple

It took many such interactions before I suspected that they were addicted to their scarcity-based frames of reference, which can be very seductive to the "smart." I never saw one of them relinquish their hair shirts, and I gave up trying to reach them, although I throw my line in periodically, and rarely get a nibble.

Peak Oilers are among the most entrenched of them. It was a lesson for me to approach Heinberg. When Brian O'Leary mentioned free energy to Amory Lovins, Amory nearly soiled himself, and when Brian made a free-energy proposal to Lester Brown, Lester looked at Brian as if Brian had insulted Lester's mother. Environmentalists might be the most obtuse of all, which is a surprise to free-energy newcomers, who think that they would be natural allies. That list can go on and on. Brian eventually began wondering if humanity is a sentient species.

Very few people have been willing and able to lift their eyes beyond scarcity, and I think that it is a problem of egocentrism and the tricks that people learn to survive in a world of scarcity and fear. They are not going to give them up, even if it means certain doom in the long run. There are science-fiction works on post-scarcity societies, but in real life, very few are interested, and often treat the idea as a threat to their existences. You generally have to see it to believe it. This is partly what makes tasks such as mine so difficult.

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One of the most mind-boggling aspects of approaching people such as Heinberg, Lovins, and Brown is that they allegedly are pursuing solutions, and are even called visionaries. They are all phonies in that regard, and it can almost make one think conspiratorially about this situation. :)

In Brian's last years, he had that Venus Project guy over to his house for dinner. That Venus guy was supposedly a "visionary," with "radical" energy solutions such as farming the Gulf Stream for energy. When Brian mentioned free energy, that Venus guy threw a tantrum.

It not easy to know what is going on in the heads of such "visionaries" when the BIG ANSWER is broached and they blow a gasket. I think that it has to do with that addiction to scarcity that I keep mentioning. They have lashed their egos to their "solutions," and can't bear to imagine something that is far beyond their "solutions." That is my guess, and whatever the truth is, it is another reason why free-energy efforts are up against it, even leaving aside the organized suppression and the public's sleepwalking inertia. Free energy efforts have almost no allies and endless enemies, and especially those who say that they seek solutions, as hard as that may be to believe.

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